In Chapter 22 of the Brothers Karamazov, a Cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church explains to Jesus the elements of organized religion – mystery, magic and authority. The same could be said for what is now our organized politics. It is a mystery how we came to these two finalists.

Love it.

Dotoyevsky would have understood quite well but then so would Willie Sutton. Ol' JC would have taken the belt off his robe to drive the pair from the temple.

That said, I think there is an enormous difference between the two.

Still I bow to your artistry.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 31, 2008 4:11 AM in response to Edwards Dropping Out Discussion

some liberals have death wishes.

Could be.

This liberal will vote to the death against Republicans Lite or Heavy.

What's the point in voting for a Democrat and getting a Republican?

- "The Supreme Court," says one of my favorite posters.

But the most liberal justice was appointed by a Republican after the defeat of Bork. A senate controlled by Democrats approved two of the worst appointed by Bush. Not terribly likely a DLC'er careless about civil liberties, favoring executive power, upper class entitlements and empowering the poor and disabled by dumping them off welfare would appoint a single liberal justice.

Be interesting to see how often Hillary finds it possible to talk about those living on the fringes rather than her peculiar middle class. Her face would break apart if she had to drop the middle class dodge of the DLC.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 31, 2008 12:56 AM in response to Edwards Dropping Out Discussion

FWIW I agree with the supporters of Clinton that the loss of Edwards was probably great news for her.

Only Obama is left to speak up for the poor and working classes and he knows he dare not do it too loudly with Chris Matthews watching for any sign of liberal heresy from the MSM conservative doctrine.

Even Edwards had begun more and more swinging right with the DLC middle class doggerel.

Pity. Lost a shining light in the darkness. Two of them actually.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 31, 2008 12:48 AM in response to Edwards Dropping Out Discussion

All I did was ask you to quit using bigoted GOP/Rove inspired talking points.

You are confused. Much of the GOP is on your side.

Maybe you would like to direct your complaints of racism towards the wife of Google's founder and CEO.

This is from the racist company she founded:

Your grandmother's mitochondrial DNA was passed down to your mother, and she passed it on to you. Trace your genetic path straight back to the mother of us all using 23andMe's Maternal Ancestry Tree. Then do the same for family, friends and historical figures, and you'll know when and where your most recent shared maternal ancestor walked the Earth. Soon you'll be able to trace paternal ancestry as well.

https://www.23andme.com/ourservice/ancestry/

Maybe you would like to join Mike Huckabee in stopping this godless scientific heresy rather than messing around with John Edwards? JE is another heretic.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 29, 2008 6:08 AM in response to The Clintons, Atwater, Rove, and the Future

everyone knows that criticizing the Clintons is like participating in the Armenian genocide of the teens.

Excellent point.

Everybody knows that hating elderly women running as stand-ins for their husbands is akin to hating Gary Kasparov, former World Chess Champion, who is probably trying to sell rugs to his Russian prison guards.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 29, 2008 5:51 AM in response to Teddy Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, Toni Morrison -- and me!

I wonder how a movement for a presidential candidate can transcend the candidate, his positions and history.

Ever hear tell of Jesus?

I don’t think you should be punching donkeys named Chad.

Agreed.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 28, 2008 11:06 PM in response to Teddy Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, Toni Morrison -- and me!

Anatole,

Your evidence that Obama is playing a race card seems - ummm - dubious to me:

Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s, doubt about Hillary's "tears" [there were none as I think Josh pointed out] was viewed far more cynically and bluntly by John Edwards in person. I don't find it remarkable that Jesse Jackson, Jr., as an ethnic African-American would talk about the campaign moving to South Carolina and a large African-American community. Do you? The you tube recording is here for anyone that wishes to look at the evidence presented:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrlSn7ndAA

See also coordinated and skillful campaign of fanning the bogus outrage regarding HRC's King - Johnson comments.

What dirty birds did this fanning and who originated the outrage? Isn't Martin Luther King a national symbol BTW rather than just an African-American icon. Even Romney seems to have fibbed a bit about his daddy marching with Dr. King. Why would he do that if Dr. King just belongs to the African-American community?

I accept that Hillary meant that civil rights marchers needed political action but I see it quite differently myself. One of the heroes of the Civil Rights Law was Everett Dirksen, if you want to call him that. I wouldn't. He bowed to pressure in my mind from a public not happy with the outrage of segregation and the attacks on marchers.

Your link to the Washington Monthly article didn't work for me. Frankly I don't think much of the source but that's my own POV.

I'm sure Presidents Simon, Gore and Kerry would be able to provide necessary references.

What does the defeat of very different politicians under varying circumstances have to do with anything?

The defeat of Simon and other real Democrats in a wave of cynicism and rightwing turn to Clinton and DLC Republicanism was a real tragedy for all America IMO. We have never recovered. The choice for too long has been between Republicans Heavy and Light.

All JMO.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 28, 2008 9:33 AM in response to The Clintons, Atwater, Rove, and the Future

Why do you accuse me of your racist doggerel, workerbee?

I have chosen to vote for the best IMO.

You can choose whoever or whatever grabs you. You might want to keep the hate talk to yourself but that is up to you.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 28, 2008 6:05 AM in response to The Clintons, Atwater, Rove, and the Future

Respectfully, I am not suggesting that anyone should strip themselves of anonymity.

That is up to everyone to do as they wish.

I just do not like anonymity when personal attacks are launched. Frankly I don't like gutter level attacks at all. :-)

I do understand fully why some would not want to reveal themselves. One woman, whose husband had been murdered by a drug gang leader, had testified before Congress about it. The pain was obvious. The drug gang leader remained free and in business. The story was revealed only in context by a woman who kept her anonymity on the internet.

Following that there were constant jabs at the lady about the "pig on the take who wanted too much and was slaughtered." Got to her finally.

It can indeed be a savage jungle here.

But people tend to do things in the dark they would never do in broad daylight.

I feel I can't complain and remain anonymous myself, whatever others choose to do. Just my own thinking.

Good talking to you, Bruce.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 28, 2008 5:11 AM in response to The Clintons, Atwater, Rove, and the Future

then I remember that this is the internet, the world of anonymity

My handle has always been my name. I pick up my mail in Westernville, NY, where I have a post office box. My telephone number is in the Westernville telephone book but I hope you will not call with threats.

I object to anonymous attacks and try to tell the truth as much as I know.

I do understand why women particularly would want to remain anonymous but I see no reason I should outside of the crank calls and threats of death and dismemberment.

If you think you are being lied to by me, then surely you should tell me what lies you think I am telling shouldn't you rather than just trashing me?

I applaud your children.

My daughter circulates trash that has been passed on by the Clinton campaign. She doesn't know any better. I don't argue with her. She knows no better. Not everyone's kids are always the very brightest in all they do sad to say.

I speak only for myself BTW.

Best, Terry

Posted at January 28, 2008 4:48 AM in response to The Clintons, Atwater, Rove, and the Future