Event of the (Two) Year (Cycle)?
Time magazine has come in for a lot of grief for punting in its annual person of the year award. I've got a different question -- one that's uniquely keyed in to American politics, though perhaps American society and culture more generally. In November and December 2004, President Bush and the Republican party looked set to dominate US politics and perhaps remake our national government. Many thought that the GOP had a system of money, influence and ideology that could ensure permanent political majorities. Two years later we have one of the great turnarounds in American political history. The Democrats are back in the majority in Congress. And far from having the political capital he boasted of in November 2004, President Bush is positively radioactive in much of the country. Certainly, he is more consistently unpopular than probably any president in modern American history.
So here's the question. Was there a key galvanizing event? And if so, what was it? Katrina? The failed Social Security gambit? Abramoff? Or was it simply the long political fuse of Iraq finally catching up with the president? Certainly all these events and trends played a role. But what was the tipping point? Looking back, what mattered most?



Comments (153)
It was Terri Schiavo that cooled the jets of the GOP juggernaut. It really gave moderates, who had been willing to vote for Bush in 2004 because Bush did a good job of making the case they should let him stay his course, grave doubts.
These led to the gradual, but accelerating re-examination process that ended up making America question the competence and true direction GOP leadership wanted to take this country.
December 26, 2006 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was Katrina. Never before has any President (in my memory, anyway) been so exposed as asleep at thw switch. The war, Schiavo, Foleygate, Abramoff, etc, all contributed but it was Katrina that created the critical mass that exploded this administration, once and for all.
December 26, 2006 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Katrina was the key event because it was the anti-9/11.
9/11 supplied Bush with a billion dollars of political capital--and an aura of invincibility--because in the wake of the attacks Americans wanted desperately (and irrationally) to believe that the President would keep them safe. Just like children want to believe that Dad will keep them safe during, say, a terrifying storm.
Meanwhile, Bush was spending his new-found political capital like a drunken sailor on shore leave. But what stripped Bush of his aura of invincibility was Katrina, a terrifying storn that revealed to the American people that Bush was not competent to keep them safe.
The will to believe could not overcome the shocking reality. The American people began, painfully, to look at Bush through new eyes. And, except for the true believers, they have not liked what they have seen.
December 26, 2006 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wrote this comment at what seemed to me to be the tipping point:
A panoply of news fireworks has exploded, within weeks of the mid-term election, now skywriting in big letters to all caring Americans:
“Foley = Pedophile = GOP”
“My tax dollars = War in Iraq = Increase in Terrorism”
“Bribe money = crime = White House”
“Pro-Torture = Constitution out the Window = Traitors”
To sum up the Foley scandal in the context of the other key news this week:
1. GOP family-values poster boy Foley, amidst undeniable proof of his own immorality, resigned.
2. The tentacles of the Abramoff gang-of-thieves was more widespread – and higher-reaching – than previously reported.
3. Judge Anna Diggs Taylor (re ACLU v. NSA ) who had recently ruled that the President's warrant less eavesdropping violated both criminal law and the U.S. Constitution, refused the administration's request for a stay and instead gave them only seven days to comply with her Order.
4. ABC-TV, after being pummeled for “Path to 9-11”, led with anti-administration, anti-GOP stories in prime time last night.
5. Bob Woodward hawking his latest book, shedding a less-than-favorable light on the White House and its machinations in an attempt to regain his all-but-lost credibility with the public as a journalist of integrity.
6. Now-public reports disclose: the escalation of violent terrorism is a direct result of the occupation of Iraq; the fruitlessness of the ‘Stay the Course” strategy; how much money this fiasco is costing the American taxpayer.
7. Elected representatives D and R have been flooded with phone calls, faxes, letters and e-mails in the last 24 hours about their pro-torture vote. The blowback is a lifelong label of being too spineless to stand up for the Constitution against the Chimperor in Chief.
8. Those running or proposing to run for office will wear the scarlet letters "Pro-Torture" for the rest of their careers.
9. People will not forget the names of those who were willing to sell out everything this country is about.
10. And then there's the serially unconfirmed US Ambassador to the UN, Bolton the Terrible.
The truth is finally getting out there. In recent days, it's been more "out there" than the Chimpinator & Company will admit. With kudos to Nance Greggs:
It aint over till the Fat Lady sings.
December 26, 2006 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was definitely Katrina. Not only, as MJ says, did it expose all the severe shortcomings of the Administration, but I also think, in a lot of ways, it gave people "cover" to finally admit to themselves and to others that the Bush Administration was a complete failure.
Dissent Protects Democracy.
December 26, 2006 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was the media response to the Katrina debacle. A reporter for ABC, Brian Williams I think, was first to express outrage and criticism of the Bush administration. The herd that is the media, which theretofore was uncritical, followed.
Strive for the ideal, but deal with what's real.
December 26, 2006 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Katrina contributed a great deal, but that was Bush's failure, not that of the Congress. I go by my brother-in-law, a doctor who voted Republican in 2004, but switched strongly in 2006. It was Terry Schiavo that did it. Not just Frist's blatant violation of medical ethics, but it was the Republican Congress just shamelessly shoving a completely twisted pro-life agenda down the throats of a family trying to deal with a heart-wrenching private matter. That really did it for a LOT of people.
December 26, 2006 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Katrina is the right answer for the two-year cycle.
But for 2006? Cheney shooting the guy in the face. In 2000, people knew Bush wasn't brilliant, but the GOP sold people on the fact that grownup Cheney had his back. As the war dragged on and Halliburton got rich, people could still deal with a mendacious, greedy Veep who was smart. In the wake of Katrina, it was obvious he wasn't paying attention, but there was a war and all, and...
Then he shot the guy, and blew up any credibility he had left. He became a joke, along with his "boss," W. It set the stage for Republicans to be looked at not just as craven, but as completely incompetent, top to bottom. The Indys and even moderate GOPers tuned them out, and began seeing the whole party as "Reflublicans." Not just mean, not just greedy, but comically stupid, like a vaudeville villain with a handlebar mustache. Every other scandal fit neatly into this frame, whether the media framed it that way or not.
December 26, 2006 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush never had a true majority - it was always cobbled together from the margins with an illusion of centrism. Appearing to take moral positions that ended up interfering with our rights (while letting their friends rape the treasury and the earth with no oversight), we were all getting sick of their crap.
Finally Katrina bust open the cracks that Shiavo had revealed (watching Shep and Geraldo argue with their anchors showed the power of live tv), and a majority that had been building for 6 years finally broke through Rove's dike.
December 26, 2006 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kanye West: "George Bush doesn't like black people."
I also agree about Schiavo. There was certainly a storm of controversy over Katrina response, Foley, etc., but those were all crimes of inaction. I think the real turnarounds have been where people have *done* something, and I think Kanye and the people who stood up for the Frist attitude toward Schiavo have had deeper resonance as time has gone on.
The George W. Bush administration has been able to skate along on apathy for six years and every time someone stands up against the "make me" presidency it creates just a little more democracy.
December 26, 2006 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think there was any single event. I think the collective we finally awoke from our 9/11 somnolence. The country finally stopped cutting Bush and the GOP slack; we came back to our senses. I think we got fed up with the lies, the spin, the incompetence, and the whole lousy mess that is the GWB presidency. Where do we go from here, is the question. The Dems need to stick to their beliefs and state those beliefs. The country, I believe, yearns for a little bit of honesty. Hopefully, a Democratic leader will emerge who will offer a fresh start, an invigoration of the old vision of tolerance, justice, personal freedom, and a government for the people. We need to return to the basic principles for which this country has stood since its founding.
Glenn (aka ges)
All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost; the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, a light from the shadows shall spring;—J.R.R. Tolkien
December 26, 2006 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
While the Schiavo debacle did start Moderates thinking that the Republicans were on the wrong track, I don't think it had much in the way of legs. I don't recall any mention of it in the previous campaign cycle. The backlash against their attempt to dismantle Social Security probably had a longer-lasting effect, but moreso among Seniors and older Baby Boomers.
I think MJ, danius, and cscs got it right. The contrast between Bush standing on the Rubble of the WTC in 2001 and Bush schmoozing it up in Arizona in 2005 could not have been greater. That and the then as-yet unprogrammed response of broadcast media for once actually criticizing Republican Rule. Until the White House fax machine caught up to the crisis even Fox News was critical.
-Dave Adams-
December 26, 2006 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Social security. It was Stalingrad, Antietam. Bush had all his "political capital": increased majorities in both houses, a compliant media, the wheels hadn't quite come off Iraq yet, and we were supposedly dazed and confused. He was fighting at his chosen time and place. And we stopped Bush cold.
December 26, 2006 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sept. 11, 2001 allowed the emperor to parade in no clothes. The request for $87 billion for Iraq started to peel the cobwebs. Katrina showed virtually everyone that Bush was an uncaring incompetent who was not up to protecting the country.
Daniel A. Greenbaum
December 26, 2006 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shiavo was the high water mark .... The wave may have broke in New Orleans, but it spent it's self in that Nursing Home in Fla. in Terri Shiavo's room.
We all die, we all bury our kin, No one wants Randel Terry there to supervise the proceedings. That circus cut across the whole field of American Life. It exposed these clowns like no other event.
Colorado Bob
December 26, 2006 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's something to make everyone smile ...
What if the Ancient Egyptians had Cable News
Colorado Bob
December 26, 2006 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to also say...definitely the feds failed and completely inept response to Katrina. It gave Americans a whole new frame of reference to look at the failings of the Iraq War and where to correctly place the blame for the failings.
Iraq, social security, corruption, abuse of power all were part of the reason but Katrina was the proverbial "straw".
December 26, 2006 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
here's the way i'm looking at it (without faulting anybody for wanting to find a singular reason why bush is now a four letter word).
if you're driving around a shitty car, the kind of car that you would laugh at when you see it driving down the road, and then get pissed when you realize it's actually such a shitty car that the person driving it is putting everybody in physical danger; the kind of car that your friends and family excoriate you for driving; the kind of car that breaks down every day and you wake up wondering what you're going to have to fix today, etc etc etc....
when it finally blows up and catches on fire, do you really care what exactly made it do that, what problem finally did it in?
i'd just walk away and hope it burns up so much and for so long that the ashes can be swept away.
December 26, 2006 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, one thing I have been waiting for is some serious media coverage of the Fall of the House of Bush...I mean, here we have a wartime President who got re-elected by a hair if only because of his status of a wartime leader, and then finds his support plummet in the face of his disastrous war. His party then gets trashed the next time they have to face the voters. We are literally living through an astounding period in our country's history, a time and place when the country has stopped supporting its wartime leaders, in simply mind-boggling numbers...Where is the serious media effort to convey this moment to Americans, to provide the context for what we are living through? In particular, where is the NYTimes on this? It's like this is all politics as usual when it is anything but....
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December 26, 2006 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
It says bad things about what the people think of us Dems . . . that it took absolute failures in everything before they gave the R's the boot. They didn't vote for us, the voted against the R's. We need to produce, we need to be honest and as stated in another post, we need to stick to our beliefs. Bush still has a lot more time to finish screwing-up what's left to screw-up. Someone quoted Tolkein which is appropriate because before 11/7, I thought we were living in Modor.
Az5762 in Boston,
Go Sox !!
December 26, 2006 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
As much as I'd like to think the debacle of Iraq or the callousness displayed to Katrina-ravaged New Orleans (Junior on-stage playing the guitar will always burn in my memory), when I talk with Republicans, they always seem to reach back to Terry Schaivo. The fact that the Commander in Chief would rush home from his "brush clearing" to sign a bill looked upon as a horrible invaision of personal rights seems to mske those "Red State" hearts pump blue. It was certainly the first time I detected a movement questioning his judgement. Something that we here have been doing all along.
December 26, 2006 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
For me it started with Social Security, reinforced by Katrina and Terry Schiavo
December 26, 2006 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Katrina
December 26, 2006 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd have to say that Hurricane Katrina was the tipping point. Bush, to me, was always a guy whose priorities were out of whack. In the 72 hours after the tragedy, he stops first at Trent Lott's house in Mississippi and then says "Brownie, you're doin' a heck of a job" as people are dying in the heat waiting for help that didn't come on time. This was a display of unprecendented presidential imcompetance.
December 26, 2006 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
To me the defining fact leading to the quick unraveling of Rove's 1000 Year Republican New Order was the fact that after the thinnest re-election margin in a hundred years (& one stolen election), Bush & Co. clung to their arrogant "my way or the highway" attitude in all things. I suspect if they had softened enough to co-opt the democrats into some Social Sec reform we'd be in a different world right now. The inertia of Spring 05 set the stage for Katrina, the collapse of support for iraq et al.
Short answer: Dick Cheney.
December 26, 2006 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before Katrina, before Schiavo, before Social Security, there was Kerik. No, it caused barely a ripple with the public, but political junkies had to see it for what is was: Rove and company were beginning to believe there own press clippings that they could do no wrong.
December 26, 2006 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real turning point was August '05. It started with Cindy Sheehan, who generated lots of stories along the line of "Bush just wants to talk to people who tell him what he wants to here", and continued with Katrina.
December 26, 2006 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
As the tipping point, I'd say Katrina, into which several key factors converged:
1) A major U.S. city, laden with history and culture, sunk into what most of us would regard (somewhat irrationally, as it happens) as third-world hopelessness (and corruption).
2) The only thing TV news can cover with decent professionalism anymore are natural disasters and emergency fuckups. This time they got the story, and there was no room to cover it up with puff pieces about the commander in chief, and background flag waving.
3) After decades of govt. being the problem, we saw what the true reaganite believers could accomplish with governing: nothing much to like there.
I also think that the Bush-Friedman-Sullivan (yes, let's not forget just yet) theory of the "war on terror" from circa 2001-2 is an excellent device for front-loading political support, but it doesn't have staying power. With the exception of a fanatical minority, Americans are inherently ill-equipped and fundamentally resistant to wars of "civilization" with no clear end and no clear goal in sight. Bush squeezed all he could from the conceit in 2004 (by which time support was already hemorrhaging), but the nature of the beast is that fatigue would soon set in. At this point, the ideological architecture (such as it may be: again, make a quick mental list of the main proponents) has ceased to be believable.
December 26, 2006 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harry Frankfurt (author of On Bullshit ) has a new book out, On Truth. This is how he ends it:
The change is political outlook is not due to a single (or even multiple) events, it is due to the realization that we have been (and continue to be) lied to. This reflects upon ourselves. We have trusted the regime and been made fools of. To regain our own sense of self-worth we must find new people to trust and believe. This also implies that the Dems had better deliver, and quickly, if they are not going to be lumped into the general disdain for government that affects almost half of the population.
--- Policies not Politics
Daily Landscape
December 26, 2006 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Schiavo thing really did start the avalanche, like a few pebbles that suddenly started knocking into other things, and it started the chain reaction. Remember the long week that TV stayed with the pack of loonies outside the nursing home? That was a long, detailed glimpse into the forces that Frist and Bush and Delay had worked to unleash, and you could feel the ground shifting at that point. Court after court said, in effect, "You've got to be kidding," and it got a lot of people wondering. But then Katrina was the complete disaster. Suddenly, with all those people starving at the convention center, with the federal government nowhere in evidence, that was it. A big slab of mountain started heading downhill. Suddenly, Bush was being denounced, his word questioned, on mainstream TV.
December 26, 2006 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Katrina finally woke the media up and changed the script from "steadfast leader" to "holy crap! What a f******g moron!" And the public dutyfully followed.
The congress dug their own graves by standing fast with the Prez, Delay, et al.
Everything else just accelerated the switch of the mushy middle of the electorate from Red to Blue.
The switch was only one of 10%, or so. But in our system, that's all it takes.
December 26, 2006 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It wasn't just one thing. Too much stuff happened, and Bush's fortunes didn't decline overnight if you recall. His image has undergone a relatively steady deterioration since 2004. If it degraded most quickly at any one time, it was the week of the Foley incident. Lots of stuff came to a head right then; there was a different news bomb every day it seemed. (Not that there aren't stories every day about a president who does evil things daily, but they rarely get traction in the media like the ones that week did.)
I have to specifically take issue with the idea that Cheney's face shooting had anything to do with it. I would classify that as a Kennedy/Chappaquiddick kind of incident. While it's certainly something that your political enemies and the press can run with, a hunting or car accident really says little about your honesty, your trustworthiness, or even your competence. And in Cheney's case, the press didn't even run with it- not as far as they surely could have with such a golden story. It was mostly us talking about it. I wonder if anyone even noticed when the victim apologized to Cheney the next week.
If I were pressed to name specific issues, I would have to say that for pure enormity the one-two punch of Schiavo and Katrina had a huge effect on people. Crazy and incompetent. There are, however, a few issues that people have with Bush, that don't seem to get complained about as much on lefty blogs:
- Bush is perceived as "soft on immigration", especially after the guest worker program he proposed where the govt would match employers up with alien workers "when no Americans could be found"
- He nominated his friend Harriet Myers for the Supreme Court, and this of all things really seems to upset some people
- He seems unaware of the trade deficit, especially with China. Type "why is everything" into Google Suggest (For that matter, try typing "bush is" or "tom delay". Google Suggest is a lot of fun.)
Not that lefty blogs might not share concerns about the trade deficit, but the righty people I've seen switch away from Bush are far more likely to cite immigration or Harriet Myers than we are.
December 26, 2006 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Social Security issue was the first time that the Democrats in Congress pulled together as party of opposition to the President. I think we have forgotten the psychological impact of that fight which was huge at the time. Ever since it seemed the Republicans over reacted to emotional issues such as Schiavo, and floundered in their own graft and corruption in Katrina which was easily projected into the publics mind as Iraq fell apart.
December 26, 2006 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man I loved seeing that Kerik screwup. The guy is about as much of a goombah as you can possibly be if you're from Central Europe, and Bush tries to appoint him head of DHS.
And there's more-- if Giuliani survives as a candidate into summer 2007, his association with Kerik will be used as a club to batter him senseless.
Character is fate, uh huh.
December 26, 2006 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wartime? Not by any previous standard. We now have one hostile occupation in Iraq, and one under-funded, half-assed little war in Afghanistan. And the War on Terror is not a war, it is a slogan.
December 26, 2006 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with many of those who have already posted: Teri Schiavo & Katrina together stripped away the curtain to reveal a very small man at the controls. Actually, not so much "at" the controls as just fiddling around with them. And in American political culture, once the general public begins to ridicule you, you're finished. For Cheney, it was shooting that other rich guy in the face while blasting farm-raised birds specially released for the purpose.
Added a moment later: Behind these domestic events, of course, is the sickening vertigo induced by the maelstrom of Iraq. During September, October & November of this year, if you listened to the news while you drove to work, you heard about another car bomb in Baghdad, another ten or twelve or twenty dead Americans (to say nothing of Iraqis). That steady pall of death forms the background to the domestic incompetence of the Bush administration.
December 26, 2006 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
posted in wrong place
December 26, 2006 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two adjectives come to mind concerning the public's perception of the Bush administration and Republicans in general:
slapdash
adjective
1. Indifferent to correctness, accuracy, or neatness: careless, messy, slipshod, sloppy, slovenly, untidy. See careful/careless.
2. Characterized by unthinking boldness and haste: brash, foolhardy, harum-scarum, hasty, headlong, hotheaded, ill-considered, impetuous, improvident, impulsive, incautious, madcap, precipitant, precipitate, rash, reckless, temerarious, unconsidered. See careful/careless.
slipshod - marked by great carelessness; "a most haphazard system of record keeping"; "slapdash work"; "slipshod spelling"; "sloppy workmanship"
slapdash, sloppy, haphazard
careless - marked by lack of attention or consideration or forethought or thoroughness; not careful; "careless about her clothes"; "forgotten by some careless person"; "a careless housekeeper"; "careless proofreading"; "it was a careless mistake"; "hurt by a careless remark"
That says it all in my opinion!
December 26, 2006 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that the Foley scandal was the straw that broke the camel's back. But before that, it was a series of things; Iraq, Abramoff, Katrina. The mismanagement and poor judgement became so apparent that it could no longer be ignored.
December 26, 2006 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Bush Administration was never set to win elections by big margins. The question instead is how they lost the 51% that they were leveraging so ferociously.
Katrina was one tipping point because it confirmed everything war opponents had been saying about Bush's incompetence in Iraq. Katrina was not only a monumental domestic disaster for the Republicans, it served to bring home the failure of Bush foreign policy much more sharply.
Another big break point was the big rise in sectarian violence after the March bombing in Samarra. The enormity of the set-back made Bush's words seem empty and self-deceptive to even the most casual observer.
But the Democrats still might not have gained majorities in both chambers if the Foley story hadn't broken. The overturning of the Republican majorities had several tipping points, but it was Foleygate that drove the stake through the heart of the monsters.
December 26, 2006 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wellstone (above) + Rosenberg. After Schiavo the "W" mouse pads and desktop pictures of George W disappeared from the workplace in my purple state. After Katrina the Radical hangers-on stopped talking about W at all and seldom mentioned the Republican party anymore - certainly no longer in glowing tones.
sPh
December 26, 2006 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
.> His image has undergone a relatively steady
> deterioration since 2004.
Actually, if you factor out the 9/11 bump, which would have accrued to any President in office at the time, W's image, favorability, and approval ratings have been on a steady downward deterioration since Election Day 2000. The day before 9/11 I was reading editorials speculating whether or not two one-term Bush Presidents in a row would end the Bush Family dynasty forever - that is how bad things were already looking for him nine months after taking office.
sPh
December 26, 2006 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like that - it was their own imperiousness that sunk them - their fatal flaw was also their triumphing virute. "Steadfast."
"Resolute" morphed into "stubborn" then morphed into "delusional." WRT Iraq especially.
December 26, 2006 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting. No mention of the fact that seniors and pensioners are having a horrible time getting the medicine they were used to getting.
The large issues weigh on the scale, but not as heavily as the ones that hit home. Remember the deadline for registration for those who wanted bankruptcy protection? What happened to Medicare? How transparent it became that the president and his cronies were out to benefit big business at the expense of the common man?
And everyone also realized that Bush dared steal two elections - the MSM didn't take a hard look at Ohio, but the chatter did.
Katrina made it abundantly clear that something is seriously wrong with the U.S.A. Not just with the GOP. The stage managed Bush with his lit up background fell off the map when he clambered back on board Air Force 1, his blue shirt soaked with sweat.
That was the turning point. Now all the crazed and batty ideas disseminated by this delusional presidency are coming home to shit all over it now.
December 26, 2006 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course some say that it was a kind of death by 1000 cuts, but then you'd never have a 'turning point' by definition.
Under-mentioned: Cindy Sheehan went round after round with Bush in August, softening him up substantially - then Katrina rolled through for the devastating knockout blow.
The Shiavo case underlines an important point: CONGRESS was voted out. Remember how Frist diagnosed Terry from a TV screen? Congress did get some blame for some of Bush's many blunders, but particularly with the Social Security debate, it became crystal clear that Congress' business was completely untethered from the concerns of real people.
Lets face it, SS 'personal accounts" was simply going to be a giveaway to the finance industry just as the drug bill was Bush's present to pharma. I also love the "me generation" aspect of the plan:
"For people retiring soon (BOOMERS) you will not have to give your SS taxes to Wall Street - of course gen Xers will be mercilessly and ruthlessly shaken down by the moneychangers - and for that privilege they'll be given no retirement security. At least they'll pay for OUR retirment security..."
December 26, 2006 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
For those who follow the polls, the message is clear. Bush was not popular when he was elected and immediately began slipping. He got a huge boost out of 9/11, then immediately began slipping again. He got a little boost at the start of the Iraq war, then ... slipping again. The year 2004 demonstrated that an all out campaign spending what? more than a $billion? and he could avoid SLIPPING any further, he didn't GAIN popularity, maybe a point or two, but nothing significant, but with a year of full campaign mode he avoided slippage. AS SOON as the election was over, the slippage began again. He slipped UNTIL the beginning of the 2006 campaign, where his slippage slowed.
The man has been unpopular from day one. Billion dollar campaigns or gut wrenching fear have given him temporary popularity, which slips away at once, but slowly.
Nothing was the turning point. The tricks to bolster his temporary gains were all used up. He has always had a genuine constituency around 30%, and when the smoke and mirrors are taken away, that is what he is left with.
December 26, 2006 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
* 2004 Tipping Point; Osama video. Never underestimate the power of fear. Elections are often a contest between fear and hope. Osama video helped fear win over hope.
* 2006 Tipping Point; Iraq. Sure Iraq quaqmire was there in 2004 but people still had hopes that it could be turned around. By 2006 it became clear to all but the Neocon Bush Cultists that Bush was an incompetent president and his series of blunders had made the war unwinnable.
December 26, 2006 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Actually, if you factor out the 9/11 bump, which would have accrued to any President in office at the time,"
Not sure about that. Imagine 9/11 happening under a Dem president, say Al Gore. The GOP and their handmaidens in the media would have lynched him. The Right Wing Noise Machine would have demonized him as an incompetent president, "soft on terrorism". Especially after the Aug.6 PDB became public. They would not have allowed any national unity. There would have divisiveness and recriminations on Day 1.
December 26, 2006 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting. No mention of the fact that seniors and pensioners are having a horrible time getting the medicine they were used to getting.
I made this call back in January when they first unrolled that Part D fiasco.
That was a huge event that mostly went unnoticed by most people. Although it did produce some truly memorable stories, during the few weeks that the media cared to report it:
On the seventh day of the new Medicare drug benefit, Stephen Starnes began hearing voices again, ominous voices, and he started to beg for the medications he had been taking for 10 years. But his pharmacy could not get approval from his Medicare drug plan, so Mr. Starnes was admitted to a hospital here for treatment of paranoid schizophrenia.
-NY Times: Medicare Woes Take High Toll on Mentally Ill
December 26, 2006 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that it was Schiavo-Katrina, but there were signs as early as the 2004 election. While the DLC and the MSM were pining over the loss of NASCAR Dads, upscale professional towns like Rochester, MN (Mayo Clinic) and other professional suburbs were beginning to show a strange and new preference for Democrats.
It goes back to Lincoln's "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time...."
Not so many Americans want to be treated like fools!
December 26, 2006 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
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December 26, 2006 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
.> Especially after the Aug.6 PDB became public.
I understand your point, but I doubt even Warren G. Harding would have ignored the 08/06 PDB. Certainly Al Gore would not have done so.
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December 26, 2006 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree: Katrina. That was the first time the conservative commentators on cable news were willing to be loudly critical of the president. And once they started singing that chorus, it made it OK for their moderate/conservative viewers to think along the same lines.
I would say the failed Social Security initiative runs Katrina a close second. That was the first signal that Karl Rove and the other politicos in the Bush administration maybe weren't the strategic geniuses they had been made to seem. Democrats were emboldened (somewhat) by the blood in the water.
December 26, 2006 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that Katrina was the tipping point and withing the Katrina disaster, the "Brownie, you're doin' a heck of a job" comment by Bush was the singularity.
With that comment it became painfully obvious to everyone that Bush cared more about loyalty and staying on message than about reality.
December 26, 2006 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see many people mentioning Schiavo. I do agree that Schiavo was a tipping point and a defining moment...but one for the republican controlled Congress rather than the POTUS. Josh seems to be asking more about the president's tipping point.
I think the exact moment of when the proverbial straw finally broke the camel's back can be pinpointed to when Bush uttered "You're doing a helluva job Brownie" while the people NOLA were forsaken and drowning. Upon hearing that everyone looked up to the dais and realized the emperor really had no clothes...
December 26, 2006 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
For this New Orleans resident, who lost his job and his house, Katrina will forever be a red-letter event in my disillusionment with the Bush presidency.
I will never forget the photo of him playing guitar at a San Diego fundraiser the day my city drowned.
I will never forget his lame flyover while the bodies floated through the streets of my neighborhood.
I will never forget the floodlit speech in Jackson Sqaure while I worked in a shelter in Gonzales, LA tending to thousands of shell-shocked refugees.
I will never forget the promises made...and broken.
I will never forget Brownie.
Every day continues to be a struggle. After an agonizing 14 months, I moved home. My home is rebuilt and I have a new job, but my neighborhood is dark at night. My neighbors are gone. Violent crime has returned. There are still 100,000 families living in FEMA trailers along the coast here, and many more in "camps" around the state.
Screw you, Mr. President.
December 26, 2006 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
All those other things had piled up, but Katrina was the wave that overtopped the levees.
December 26, 2006 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
We lived in a 51-49 political environment for a long time. Far too many people were ripe for the picking as long as you told them what to fear. The Republicans were better at making noise about fear. They suffered from a similar "victory disease" to what helped doom Japan to an earlier than otherwise likely defeat in the Second World War. They figured to roll over us all because no one was going to stand up to them.
I believe we owe our election victories as much to the emergence of Democrats as to Republican mistakes. A group of Democratic leaders emerged to point out time and time again that there was a choice to be made. You didn't have to put up with Republican malfeasance because there was a second party ready to take over.
The single biggest difference between 2004 and 2006 was the quality of leadership shown by people like Reid and Pelosi. Voters were ground down by two more years of corruption and mistakes but that seemed ready to happen in 2004. This time, we had Democrats pointing out the choices behind each Republican "mistake."
John
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December 26, 2006 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Republicans I know, people who have always voted Republican did not vote for Bush. They voted for a Republican who just happened to be George W. Bush. (They have never voted for a Democrat, and probably never will.)
They are not disenchanted - nor were they necessarily ever enchanted - with Bush because of his monumental screw-ups, obvious ineptness or disastrous ventures but because his policies defy the principles of Republicanism as they understand them. Whenever he attempts to, say, "reform" social security or eliminate the estate tax, issues close to a country-club republican's heart, he fails.
How they would poll? Probably depends on the questions asked. In private conversations one doesn't mention Bush because the reaction is as though one has mentioned one of their children who has disastrously strayed.
December 26, 2006 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush's tipping point was Katrina. A zoom lens was in the camera and things past and present looked different. I define tipping here as the final blow to a disapproval rating that the Administration will not be able to recover from.
The blow to the GOP Congress, I view as a separate issue and I think the negative perception tipped into votes for the Democratic Party with the Foley scandal. I define tipping here as enough motivation for voters to cast a vote for the Democratic candidate--and it was probably more a vote against the Republican Party than it was a vote for the Democratic Congressional candidate.
Voters find it tough to change their minds and I think they will be judging Congressional performance and that will determine how the votes go in 2008.
December 26, 2006 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Complex causation, of course. I think Katrina opened some eyes, Schiavo opened more eyes and not a few minds, and once the eyes and minds were opened, issues which formerly worked for the Purse-Lipped Preznit began to be seen as two-edged swords-- (Iraq, tax cuts for the rich and concentration of wealth, privatization, etc.). Thus began a slow hemorrhage of suppport for Bush and the Republicans, which accelerated as Iraq continued south and other disappointments mounted.
And FoleyGate exploded at just the right time, a smart-bomb targeted at those who (their denial reinforced by organized religious homophobic pirates) remained behind the Republicans as a party.
The deeper the delusion, the harder it is to shake. It has taken Americans six years to see the Lying, Purse-Lipped Sack o' Shyt for what he is.
What is he? Bush is the new O.J.
December 26, 2006 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right you are. Al Gore would have listened to Richard Clarke from the first briefing forward. Gore didn't need convincing that ALQ was dangerous, and he wouldn't have suffered from the Neocons' psychologically revealing obsession with missile defense.
December 26, 2006 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
i'm surprised not one person has brought up the dubai port sale dust-up. i believe this event is as strong a candidate as any other, even though in the end, i'd give the contest to katrina.
but what happened with dubai was nothing less the lobbing of a cognitive grenade at the red-meat eating faithful base of bush's popular support.
clearly the port deal was not intended for public consumption. since a number of our port affairs are already handled by foreigners, the administration obviously did not expect its supporters to suddenly notice or care, and were wholly unprepared to deal with the blowback from such attention — blowback they set themselves up for after five years of stoking their supporters' jingoism and xenophobia.
bush asked the public to accept — in the public's view — the handing over of our ports to the very same people they had been steadily conditioned for years to vilify. if anyone remembers, for example, some of the viewer feedback cnn's jack cafferty delivered over the air, the reaction was shockingly feral.
December 26, 2006 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think a two-year cycle is the way to look at it. Bush's popularity has been steadily declining since 9/11.
The first major downslope was in spring 2004, with Abu Ghraib and the first battle of fallujah. During the second half of 2004 Bush's popularity rose moderately, probably due to dumping on Kerry followed by a small post-election surge. From Jan 2005 on there has been steady decline. But the events in the sping of 2004 are major; they belong on any list marking the begining of the end.
December 26, 2006 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember the deadline for registration for those who wanted bankruptcy protection?
And remember the deadline for enrolling in Part D? They threatened seniors that they'd better enroll by May 15 or face stiff premiums for the rest of their lives. It was a shakedown, a dare to all seniors to get involved in the whole disaster or else. Their biggest problem in 2005 and on was that they forgot they had no mandate. They adopted policy positions widely out of line with the expectations of voters, and proceeded to shake down huge sections of the public as if we all love being pickpocketed.
Right after the 2004 election, the attitude of the whole Republican Party changed into one of ha ha, we've got it now, you can't take it from us, we've got you all screwed now. The first thing they did was launch a full scale transparent assault to "save" Social Security. Then they had their widely hated signature achievements, like the bankruptcy bill and Medicare Part D. They just lazily dropped all pretense that they had anything but the most ill of intentions, that they were in this for anything other than enriching themselves and their friends.
One thing that must be noted- there are some issues that have not only succeeded in causing widespread public revulsion, but also, really served to show everybody how divorced the Bush true-believers are from reality. The Republicans, forgetting their lack of a mandate, not only took extreme minority positions on these issues, but also vilified anyone who in fact had a majority opinion.
Iraq: The obvious case, with a competition between the "reality-based" view and the idea that everything is hunky dorey except for insurgents who can be killed and bad PR that can be fixed. Essentially the public was told it couldn't see the nose on its face in the mirror, everything was fine with the painted schools. Once the public noticed the daily car bombings, the deaths of soldiers, and Rumsfeld's general incompetence, they gradually departed from that viewpoint. Many many Republicans failed to follow along, and you can still see them defending the "surge" today- a position with something like 10% support among the public.
Katrina: Remember how this quickly, but only briefly (for most of us), turned into a law enforcement issue? Once those initial reports of looting came out, the wingnuts kept struggling to move the conversation away from Bush's inaction to make it more about the lawlessness in the city. And the public perception of the crisis turned on a dime- until later on when it became clear (to most of us) that the looting was the minor story. (But of course, it must be mentioned that the looting was what it took to finally attract significant attention from Bush.) But for months afterward the Wingnut Brigade's narrative of Katrina was a law-enforcement issue, and political attacks on New Orleans residents continue to this day. The worst are Bush supporters who also got rained on and feel entitled to be racists. If you notice, in almost every case, this minority wingnut opinion views individuals as the cause of all our problems, rather than corporations or the pernicious, corrosive effect of money and corruption in politics.
Schiavo: The most obvious case. This one really was a big F U to the public: we can survive with just our crazy base thank you. Most people were horrified by government intervention in a family's private affairs and failed to view the story in pro-life/pro-choice terms like the Republicans myopically insisted on doing. They even lost libertarians with this one, who are some of their most annoyingly persistent supporters.
Bankruptcy Bill: This got turned into a moral issue too. People who don't pay their bills are bad and should be punished. That was the moral clarity we kept getting. But although nobody likes deadbeats, most people view the Republican bankruptcy legislation as a direct affront to themselves. After all it closes off an option that was previously available to you in the event of a financial emergency. That isn't changed by the fact that some deadbeats out there are already getting their comeuppance.
December 26, 2006 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
one can also look at bush's popularity over the extent of his presidency, where it can be argued that bush's numbers have been in slow but steady decline since he first took office.
that decline is interrupted only by very dramatic but progressively declining spikes after the invasion of afghanistan, after "mission accomplished" in iraq, and lastly after the capture of saddam hussein.
what this seems to imply is that, from the very start of his first term, the romance with the public has been steadily and continuously losing its steam, despite bush's best efforts, which seem to have progressively weaker and weaker effect.
December 26, 2006 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don’t think that it was one thing nor could it have been just one thing… All of these minor fubars in series contributed to their slide. There is a military strategy (a term that I can’t remember at the moment) that strives to make significant events happen to an enemy at a pace that is faster than the enemy’s ability to successfully react. I believe that that is what happened to this administration. Part of it was external, part of it was internal and part of it was bad luck. But, I think that the biggest problem was that they created a communication structure that fed upon itself without adequate input from the ‘reality based’ world. This had the effect of delaying and therefore weakening their ability to control the story. Then once they had spun up a response to the first crisis the next crisis was on their doorstep. Combine this scenario with the increase in the efficiency of their opponents in the ‘reality based’ world (bloggers et al) and you have the makings of a perfect storm.
December 26, 2006 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was Katrina. The Terry Shiavo debacle got everyone's attention for the debacle it was but it was Katrina that was that unexpected shove in the back, the kind that snaps your head back, that got everyone spinning around and asking WTF?
When the public could see the disconnect of what the president was saying and what was really happening it wasn't much of a step to extend that to what he was saying about Iraq and what was being reported.
If there is any silver lining with regards to the disaster Katrina was, it was the kick-in-the-nuts this country needed to wake them up to the fact our president was an incompetent boob.
December 26, 2006 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think I'm with Digby on this: the Duelfer Report was the beginning of the Great UnMasking -- the rest that followed just drove the wedges farther into the chinks it opened. It left only Santorum/King-style TruBe* nutcases clinging to the notion that the WMD claim was ever anything but bogus. And it made it ok for those who had long resisted the notion that their president and his admin would deliberately and baldly lie to them to join us in the Reality-Based Community who had long previously realized that yes, they would and did and do; and that they do so as a conscious, pervasive, systematic tactical political choice. Just a snowball rolling downhill (though with lots of helpful pushes from Repub corruption, incompetence and idiocies like the Schiavo mess).
*True Believer
December 26, 2006 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a good topic with interesting comments, but I wish it was possible to hear from more people who actually changed their mind about this president and his puppet Congress.
Except for a few secondhand reports, I think the comments are from people who realized this one-party regime was a bad bunch from the beginning.
December 26, 2006 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "tipping point" was Katrina, hands down. It put a human face on the suffering that has been caused by Bush's incompetence, which was graphically embodied in the cronyism that yielded Mike "Heckuva job, Brownie" Brown.
That in turn gave the MSM permission to view the debacle in Iraq with the benefit of objectivity, rather than taking refuge under the guise of purporting to offer balanced coverage.
December 26, 2006 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't speak for myself, as I have been anti-Chimp since before the 2000 election. But I have had a ringside seat by watching my father change his mind. My father, a businessman in New York City, has been a long supporter of GOP causes. On his office wall, he has a framed picture of Ronald Reagan (signed: "Jerry, Thanks for all the help, Ronald").
My father's change took a while - his was a slow abandonment of what Republicanism has become, since in the end it wasn't what he had signed on for decades ago. Was it Katrina? Was it Iraq? Was it Schiavo? No. It was a slow revelation of the mendacity and idiocy of the movement. Finally, some time after Katrina, he threw in the towel.
I admire my father greatly - and not only because he is one of the few people I know who can admit they were wrong, who can admit they've been had. I admire him because he is one of the very few Republicans I know who actually thinks about what he believes, and doesn't just get opinions from angry white men on Righty TV.
He's one of us now. And I am so proud of him!
December 26, 2006 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
J. McCutchen
A friend or perhaps now EX friend is a county Republican chair. After the 2004 election, he told me (paraphrase)
What happened Mr Chairman?
Exactly what I said in response
Hubris. Iraq
Iraq. Hubris
December 26, 2006 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
A thousand individuals can make a list of dozens of reasons to turn their backs on Bush. But this has been happening really since he took office. He got a huge bump in the aftermath of 9/11, but aside from that this is a guy who has always had a lot of baggage for lots of Republicans.
What changed between 2004 and 2005 was the tone of the "news" coverage. Bush's credibility with the public was always rooted in a cheerleading press and pundit corps who told America he had a "sunny nobility", to quote Chris Matthews. And as sick as it makes me to think about it, the tone Washington turned 180 degrees when Bob Woodward got off his knees and wrote State of Denial. Read transcripts of Hardball and Meet the Press from one month before Denial was published and one month after, the difference will shock you.
December 26, 2006 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember, the media "common wisdom" before Katrina was that the problems were difficult, but the Republicans were handling it as well as possible.
Prior to that, and still through today, the media common wisdom is that Democrats cannot lead, cannot handle war or terrorism, are rubes who do not know how to dress in sophisticated company and were graft-ridden crooks. Katrina was the case when the reporters on the ground were arguing with their anchors. That was the real crack for the Republicans, but they could have recovered it if they had given the media anything at all to work with. But they didn't. Everything since Katrina had been downhill. The MSM common wisdom hasn't changed, but nothing the Republicans have done since Katrina has been a success. It has all been unredeemed failure.
Then from the bowels of the MSM, Bob Woodward published his book entitled "State of Denial: Bush at War, Part III." Just the title crystalized all the other books describing the failures of the Bush administration and gave them legitimacy. It broke the hold of the MSM common wisdom on the public. (I don't think it has changed the common wisdom. It just broke the MSM monopoly on "Truth.")
The result was the November 7th election which was effectively a vote of no confidence in Bush and the Republican Party. Unfortunately, since we do not have a Parliamentary government, instead of getting a new government, PM and cabinet, all we got was Bob Gates to replace Don Rumsfeld. Like everything else in the Bush administration, that's a cosmetic change. Although we are likely to see a real shift in the domestic legislation very shortly.
I will also agree that Terry Schiavo was a critical incident. It showed that the social Republicans commanded the administration and was a severe danger to everyone who is likely to die and wants to maintain control over the process. The extremists were too visible for their own good, and everyone was threatened.
Then there was the Chinese water torture of corruption, starting with the arrest and conviction of "Duke" Cunningham, followed by Abramoff who was able to bring corruption, bribery, murder, corproate takeovers, and that great picture of him walking out of the federal court building wearing the black trenchcoat and the black hat. I'd be willing to bet that picture alone cost the Republicans thousands of votes nation-wide.
Anyway, that's my current take on the situation. I have to admit that when Josh posted the question, I looked at it and checked for comments. There were none. And I had no way of putting all the events of the last two years into perspective without a blackboard and a list of the events, which I wasn't ready to do. So this post is really my idiosyntric take on all the posts above, and I am still hazy as to the sequence of the events. Was Schiavo before Katrina? Seems like it, but I'm not sure.
December 26, 2006 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The stage was set by Schiavo, etc., but the feeling that the President's incompetence was showing was palpable after Katrina. It was so obvious that it was unavoidable to wonder if this administration could be so totally oblivious here, how could we believe that they were doing any better there. Then what we saw on our screens every night proved it was true.
December 26, 2006 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edward Keating
All of the above... Katrina , the war in Iraq, the Abramof scandals... all caused the Republican ship to list and their eventual loss, but if the question were one of magnitude and what caused the highly improbable loss of the Senate, the answer would have to be the Tom Foley-page scandal.
At the time the Foley scandal broke, Bush and Cheney (Rove) were back to the tried and true tactics of attacking the Democrats' patriotism by slinging the biggest lie they could think of, equating a vote for the Democrats as a vote for the terrorists, and their efforts were beginning to show some positive results. Bush's and the Republicans' numbers were slowly beginning to make a modest comeback from their record-low levels, and while their chances of holding onto the House were still a long shot, they stood a decent chance of keeping their losses to a minimum and the maintaining the possibility of post-election, propaganda victory by keeping their losses below the averages for an party in power in a mid-year election. Up to this point, even the most optimistic Democrats and the brashest pundits were unwilling to predict a Democratic take-over of the Senate. Then the Foley scandal broke. In the most dramatically timed news stories that I can ever remember, the Republicans were stopped dead in their tracks and their end-game strategy, which had just begun to show some positive results, was over. Not only was a partial comeback over, but they eventually sunk even further in the polls and, as they say, the rest is history.
For reasons too difficult (and depressing) to contemplate, many Americans, in the face of gross corruption and incompetence, continued to look the other way and kept the election unnaturally close. The Democrats were, for some inexplicable reason, (lack of courage, perhaps) still unworthy of being handed the power to run Washington. But, now, things had changed and there was no looking back. People who had been able to look past Iraq, past Katrina, and past Abramof, could no longer deny that the Republicans time was over and that they just had to go. Anything , even Democratic control, would be preferable to any kind of Republican hold on power. These people who would put their own political concerns over the welfare of congressional pages in their charge had finally gone too far. The margins of victory in just two or three states were so slim, that just the tiniest of fractions of the vote in any one of those states would have allowed the Republicans to prevail in terms of control of the Senate. The Democratic victory in the House was never really in doubt, but the Foley scandal added at least four of five more state to the Democratic column.
If there was one last nail to the Republican coffin, it would have to be Rush Limbaugh's criticisms of Michael J. Fox and his accusations that he had been faking or exaggerating the symptoms of his Parkinson's disease. With the stem cell issue on the ballot in Missouri, the backlash against the right-wing attack machine was enough to rally Missouri voters to Clair McCaskill and what could have been an easy victory for James Talent turned into a 2% margin of victory for the Democrat.
December 26, 2006 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Social Security lost them the seniors.
Terry Schiavo lost them the libertarians.
Katrina lost them everyone else but the true believers.
December 26, 2006 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Full leverage for the turning point came when Keith Obermann began doing his "special commentaries," the first one originated from ground zero on the anniversary of 9/11.
December 26, 2006 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
For me, the worm turned when the media was unable to stem the anti-Bush vitriol felt by the silent majority in the country.
I saw it happen in an instant, watching live tv with co-workers, a couple of days into Katrina. Bush had just made his vacuous statement back at the White House and television anchors were chirping about how Bush had "cut short his vacation" to guide us through the crisis.
Then to Mississippi for this man on the street reaction: Robert, a pissed-off young white mechanic in Biloxi, points to the naked emperor and practically spits: "Bush shouldn't be President no more."
That was my tipping point.